Durham Red

[HOO-HAA]

Looking great!

[Large48]

Still prefer the bigger pointer ones....

But very good :-)

[Dandontdare]

..... rubber/pvc/leather trousers on that go up over her hips ..... black stockings and suspenders ..... the cod/lady piece (?) which lies OVER the suspenders. Then there's the bodice ..... all the way down to just below her navel where there's two press studs ..... shortened to just over the suspender belt ...... working my way down ... 

  Phew,  I'm just off for a quiet lie down...

[Patrick Ward]

    OK OK I know, too much. But you can't build something if you don't understand it.

And thanks Wayne and Large.

[TordelBack]

I can't see her bottom anymore.   

[davethomson]

   OK OK I know, too much. But you can't build something if you don't understand it.

I drew a Durham Red pinup a while back, determined to draw her costume accurately. I eventually came to the conclusion that it makes no functional sense whatsoever. Looks pretty though.

I think you're doing a cracking job with the model but I don't think that even Mark Harrison knows how her costumes function.

[Patrick Ward]

Thanks Dave. That makes me feel better.

[The Doctor Alt 8]

Bloody hell if the writer dosen't know what she's doing... what chance do I stand.?

[Steve Green]

Hi Patrick,

I guess the best thing is just to google lots of PVC/Leather catsuits and see where the creases occur.

Tough job etc...

I wonder if you might be able to get a better handle on the creases by making the material more like the final one, and comparing that with photoref.

Are you planning to animate the model at all? Of course that opens up how you animate the creases...

Cheers

Steve

[Patrick Ward]

Hi Steve . .yes I've been googling lots .. and lots and lots. Good job I can't get sacked for some of the stuff google brings up. 

Well the intention is to get a game model out of it and you can't animate creases in games so that's not been a concern. If it was for a proper high res render then you'd create multiple morph targets for each joint and each major area of deformation and put other layers of deformation over that which a huge job and not one I'd do for fun. If it was for a posed shot then I'd leave the creases until after she's posed so they'd make sense.

I'm experimenting with the best ways to do the stockings now. Very entertaining.

[Steve Green]

Tell me about it, I was doing a street scene once at work and googled 'manhole' for some photo reference...

There are things you can't unsee...

The stockings should look quite cool, there are some great details in the costume. Depending on the version you go for, it seemed to start off quite snug, but the later versions looked a bit more antique/creased.

[Mike Carroll]

Looks really good, Patrick - can't wait to see the final model!

[BMB]

This looks very very nice.

[minus]

Thanks heaps for posting this! I was unaware of Zbrush, but have just spent the morning investigating further. I've looked at Maya before, but Zbrush has really impressed me! Great work on Durham Red by the way. Can't wait to see the finished piece!

[Patrick Ward]

Thanks everyone. Not spent too much time on her recently. Other things taking up my time. But this is where she's at now. The stockings aren't transparent so they're hiding all the wrinkles in the leather trousers. Her hair is still temporary, her face needs work, there's no gun and she still needs bits of lacy garter things.