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Re: At the Mountains of Madness by Ian Culbard
« Reply #15 on: 12 March, 2010, 09:48:56 PM »
I'm with mygrimmbrother on this - my first instinct was to buy it ASAP, but then the more I looked at the samples, the more I realized they weren't what I had been imagining all these years. No offense to Ian, but I like my imaginings better (of course I don't have the talent to ever put them on paper, so...).

I think you are both scared of it, one day you might be innocently strolling down the street on the way to the adult bookstore and you get kidnapped, strapped down and made to read it, then we'll see what happens. Because I want to see if you go mad first before I read it.
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Re: At the Mountains of Madness by Ian Culbard
« Reply #16 on: 12 March, 2010, 09:50:48 PM »
From Beyond and Re-Animator are classic horror films, if not classic Lovecraft adaptations.

And yeah, Tori Spelling ...   :lol:

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Re: At the Mountains of Madness by Ian Culbard
« Reply #17 on: 12 March, 2010, 10:05:14 PM »
I find the conceit of the Call of Cthulhu film irritating, making it in black & white with physical fx is fine but mimicking bad silent movie acting lessens the effect, why not play it straight?, there are many silent films that don't play up to the camera in this way, early Carl Dreyer films being a good example, his mostly silent "sound" film "Vampyr" feels more Lovecraftian than any other:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gBzNioJROI


More points lost for adding scratches to any modern film.
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Re: At the Mountains of Madness by Ian Culbard
« Reply #18 on: 13 March, 2010, 10:34:45 AM »
I'm with mygrimmbrother on this - my first instinct was to buy it ASAP, but then the more I looked at the samples, the more I realized they weren't what I had been imagining all these years. No offense to Ian, but I like my imaginings better (of course I don't have the talent to ever put them on paper, so...).

I think you are both scared of it, one day you might be innocently strolling down the street on the way to the adult bookstore and you get kidnapped, strapped down and made to read it, then we'll see what happens. Because I want to see if you go mad first before I read it.

That does make me scared...but I've already gone mad a long time ago (that story does not, however, include any mountains).

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Re: At the Mountains of Madness by Ian Culbard
« Reply #21 on: 26 October, 2010, 09:56:50 AM »
I give in! It's on my Christmas list (or in my amazon basket rather, which amounts to the same thing).

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Re: At the Mountains of Madness by Ian Culbard
« Reply #22 on: 10 November, 2010, 04:40:02 AM »
I give in! It's on my Christmas list (or in my amazon basket rather, which amounts to the same thing).

I knew your tiny human mind wouldn't be able to resist ;)


Culbard has also done some guest blogs:

How he did the adaptation:
www.selfmadehero.com/news/2010/11/guest-blogger-i-n-j-culbard-–-detective-work/

How he came up with designs for indescribably monstrosities:
www.selfmadehero.com/news/2010/10/guest-blogger-i-n-j-culbard-here-be-monsters-and-spoilers/

Where he came up with the designs for the architecture (the Roerich link is interesting):
www.selfmadehero.com/news/2010/11/i-n-j-culbard-wish-you-were-here/
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Re: At the Mountains of Madness by Ian Culbard
« Reply #23 on: 10 November, 2010, 03:02:00 PM »
Where he came up with the designs for the architecture (the Roerich link is interesting):
www.selfmadehero.com/news/2010/11/i-n-j-culbard-wish-you-were-here/

Actually I was reading a paper the other day on Lovecraft and phenomenology which touch on other links with the architecture in MoM:

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In Lovecraft as in Poe, the horror of things comes not from some transcendent force lying outside the bounds of human finitude, but in a twisting or torsion of that finitude itself. The immediate fusion between a thing and its tangible signals gives way to the detachment of a tortured underlying unit from its outward qualities. In similar fashion, cubist painting renders its figures paradoxically distinct from the amassing of planes and angles through which they are presented. It is no accident that only certain paintings by Georges Braque seem to approach a notion of what Lovecraftian architecture might look like, [29]

[29] Among other instances, see Braque’s 1908 canvas ‘House at l’Estaque’, best viewed in conjunction with Lovecraft’s description of the Antarctic city.
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Re: At the Mountains of Madness by Ian Culbard
« Reply #25 on: 10 November, 2010, 05:26:37 PM »
Pity, as it is well described in the text:

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The effect was that of a Cyclopean city of no architecture known to man or to human imagination, with vast aggregations of night-black masonry embodying monstrous perversions of geometrical laws. There were truncated cones, sometimes terraced or fluted, surmounted by tall cylindrical shafts here and there bulbously enlarged and often capped with tiers of thinnish scalloped disks; and strange beetling, table-like constructions suggesting piles of multitudinous rectangular slabs or circular plates or five-pointed stars with each one overlapping the one beneath. There were composite cones and pyramids either alone or surmounting cylinders or cubes or flatter truncated cones and pyramids, and occasional needle-like spires in curious clusters of five. All of these febrile structures seemed knit together by tubular bridges crossing from one to the other at various dizzy heights, and the implied scale of the whole was terrifying and oppressive in its sheer gigantism.

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/At_the_Mountains_of_Madness/Chapter_3

Although that is the mirage, it seems fairly accurate:

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Yet now the sway of reason seemed irrefutably shaken, for this Cyclopean maze of squared, curved, and angled blocks had features which cut off all comfortable refuge. It was, very clearly, the blasphemous city of the mirage in stark, objective, and ineluctable reality.

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Of course the phantom had been twisted and exaggerated, and had contained things which the real source did not contain; yet now, as we saw that real source, we thought it even more hideous and menacing than its distant image.

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The foothills were more sparsely sprinkled with grotesque stone structures, linking the terrible city to the already familiar cubes and ramparts which evidently formed its mountain outposts. These latter, as well as the queer cave-mouths, were as thick on the inner as on the outer sides of the mountains.

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The nameless stone labyrinth consisted, for the most part, of walls from 10 to 150 feet in ice-clear height, and of a thickness varying from five to ten feet. It was composed mostly of prodigious blocks of dark primordial slate, schist, and sandstone—blocks in many cases as large as 4 × 6 × 8 feet—though in several places it seemed to be carved out of a solid, uneven bed-rock of pre-Cambrian slate. The buildings were far from equal in size; there being innumerable honeycomb-arrangements of enormous extent as well as smaller separate structures. The general shape of these things tended to be conical, pyramidal, or terraced; though there were many perfect cylinders, perfect cubes, clusters of cubes, and other rectangular forms, and a peculiar sprinkling of angled edifices whose five-pointed ground plan roughly suggested modern fortifications. The builders had made constant and expert use of the principle of the arch, and domes had probably existed in the city’s heyday.

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/At_the_Mountains_of_Madness/Chapter_5

Clearly the mention of cubes makes Cubism seems appropriate (especially for the cubes they initially see in the mountains), but I think Cubism would really come into its own when depicting R'lyeh:

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Without knowing what futurism is like, Johansen achieved something very close to it when he spoke of the city; for instead of describing any definite structure or building, he dwells only on broad impressions of vast angles and stone surfaces—surfaces too great to belong to anything right or proper for this earth, and impious with horrible images and hieroglyphs. I mention his talk about angles because it suggests something Wilcox had told me of his awful dreams. He said that the geometry of the dream-place he saw was abnormal, non-Euclidean, and loathsomely redolent of spheres and dimensions apart from ours. Now an unlettered seaman felt the same thing whilst gazing at the terrible reality.

Johansen and his men landed at a sloping mud-bank on this monstrous Acropolis, and clambered slipperily up over titan oozy blocks which could have been no mortal staircase. The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance showed concavity after the first showed convexity.

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It was Rodriguez the Portuguese who climbed up the foot of the monolith and shouted of what he had found. The rest followed him, and looked curiously at the immense carved door with the now familiar squid-dragon bas-relief. It was, Johansen said, like a great barn-door; and they all felt that it was a door because of the ornate lintel, threshold, and jambs around it, though they could not decide whether it lay flat like a trap-door or slantwise like an outside cellar-door. As Wilcox would have said, the geometry of the place was all wrong. One could not be sure that the sea and the ground were horizontal, hence the relative position of everything else seemed phantasmally variable.

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Call_of_Cthulhu/Chapter_III

Interesting that Lovecraft himself mentions Futurism. Although it is later than Call of Cthulhu, I am reminded of "Nose Dive on the City". Looking for that I found a page of 20 Dynamic Paintings From The Italian Futurists, which includes other paintings with disturbing geometries, like "The Street Enters the House", "Simultaneous Visions", "Burning City" and "Lightning Composer."

There are some good examples of post-WWII Futrist architecture, and the CLA Building in particular looks suitably... "jarring":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futurist_architecture

I suppose the irony in Lovecraft mentioning Futurism is that he had dubious views on race and the Italian Futurists would go on to largely support Mussolini and the fascists.  :o
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Re: At the Mountains of Madness by Ian Culbard
« Reply #26 on: 15 November, 2010, 08:59:50 PM »
Good review from the Observer:

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It is not only that Culbard has so cunningly boiled down Lovecraft's rather weighty novel, leaving its exciting plot free to breathe; it's also that his superb ligne claire drawings so effortlessly evoke both the world of Tintin, and the Edwardian science fiction of HG Wells and Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. If you are a fan of the golden age of polar exploration – if you still hanker after Boy's Own stories of derring-do – I promise that this is the graphic novel for you.

There is also some interesting debate in the comments, including our own Kelvin Green, about how you adapt work like Lovecraft's (whether you go prose heavy or prose light):

www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/nov/14/mountains-of-madness-lovecraft-culbard-review

Earlier ones:

http://forbiddenplanet.co.uk/blog/2010/and-then-vague-horror-began-to-creep-into-our-souls-welcome-to-the-mountains-of-madness-released-28th-october/
http://geeksyndicate.wordpress.com/2010/10/24/comic-review-at-the-mountains-of-madness/
http://butterflyhunt.tumblr.com/post/1322688748/there-are-more-things-culbards-at-the-mountains-of
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Re: At the Mountains of Madness by Ian Culbard
« Reply #27 on: 15 November, 2010, 09:44:40 PM »
Ordered. I've only recently read the collected works of Lovecraft so I'll be interested to see how Culbard has interpreted this story. From the reviews (cheers Emperor) I've got reasonably high hopes. I loved the source material and I like the look of Culbard's euro style art, he'd have to go some to really screw it up.

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Re: At the Mountains of Madness by Ian Culbard
« Reply #28 on: 15 November, 2010, 10:56:12 PM »
I just got my copy today. I'll be putting it away for Xmas but I had a sneaky flick through (sorry Santa, please don't give me a sack of ashes like you did in 1988) and it is a lovely looking book.
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Re: At the Mountains of Madness by Ian Culbard
« Reply #29 on: 15 November, 2010, 11:02:14 PM »
The original story was serialised the other week, on bbc7, read by him wot was in Strange and Coupling. Very good it was too.
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