Mark Millar on his 2K work - "pure shite"

[Bolt-01]

I've jst had a lovely cup of coffee whilst reading this thread- which I'd not looked at since page 2- and would just like to say thanks, once again to this board for being flippin' brill.

For myself I've had several occaisions where I've had pictures seemingly 'fall out of the pencil' for me- but that is more to do with the circumstances being just right than magic. However, Magic is what they make me feel, emotionally.

[Mike Gloady]

Peter,

I'm not intollerant.  Believe what you like.  I can have whatever opinion of your views I like.  God, alien abductions, magic, flying spaghetti monster and so on are all in the same camp. 

[Mikey]

I am struggling here to find an example of where i have laughed at or have been intolerant of someones elses religious beliefs or faith or beliefs in magic or anything else of that nature.

Technically, you did just now, when you mocked Mike for hs views religious or magical stuff.

There you go! It was meant in a general sense Peter - we're posting on an internet forum, where dimissing peoples views is, so I'm told, rampant.

M.

[Colin Zeal]

This thread prompted me to have a look at a couple of progs from the Summer Offensive last night. I realise it's a bit of a scab on the arm of 2000AD, and picking at it really doesn't help but I just can't understand what Millar and Morrison were trying to do with Big Dave. I admit I'm a PC lefty, but that isn't what I dislike about it. Why would you try and satirise tabloids, "pc gone mad" attitudes and lad culture in a sci-fi comic with a large teenage readership? And if you are going for satire then at least try and make it funny and have a point to it.

And I think it was only down to Morrison, but somebody needs to apologise for the pile of turd that is "Really & Truly."

[King Trout]

I love Really and Truly, although mainly for the art.

[Jared Katooie]

I loved The Ultimates.  That is all.

I loved the Ultimates too, right up until the final part of the story arc, where (and this is pretty ironic) the characters are saved from destruction thanks to a big army of magical warriors that were magically transported to earth to save the day.

There you go! It was meant in a general sense Peter - we're posting on an internet forum, where dimissing peoples views is, so I'm told, rampant.

M.

Rubbish.

[Mikey]

Heh. Screw you Katooie!

I have not re read the Summer Offensive ever, but I wonder if approaching it from idea spacewould reveal something more, like in Assasin's Creed when you use eagle vision?

M.

[locustsofdeath!]

I've not read the Summer Offensive myself...I have it, but it just looks like crap so I busy myself with my prog slog, struggling to get the the rest of the mid-90s crap.

[TordelBack]

The Summer Offensive only has one real highlight for me:  Smith and Peart's Slaughterbowl.  Great fun, simple story and cyborg dinosaurs.  

I do like Big Dave on occasion too, and the idea of the Summer Offensive itself was neat - disposable comics, ultra violence, light druggy poppy stories.  If it hadn't been for Inferno, I might even have chalked it up as a good idea.  

[JayzusB.Christ]

I do like Big Dave on occasion too, and the idea of the Summer Offensive itself was neat - disposable comics, ultra violence, light druggy poppy stories.  If it hadn't been for Inferno, I might even have chalked it up as a good idea. 

I agree - I enjoyed that period of 2000ad, though disposable was the word - it's not something I would have enjoyed for too long.  2000ad wasn't exactly in its heyday anyway around then, and for me the Summer Offensive was a welcome break. 
I liked Big Dave a lot, and enjoyed Really and Truly - a comic strip for pillheads I suppose.  Not that I was one at that time.  Slaughterbowl was great too.
Wasn't a fan of Maniac 5 (did anyone notice that Tony Blair died TWICE in that series? Very lazy).  Inferno started off really well - kicked the shit out of Ennis or Millar's Dredd - but lost it at the end.

One thing about The Summer Offensive was that it got one or two of my non-2000ad-reading friends interested.  Big Dave appealed to the teenage Viz reader in them and then they started getting hooked on the action in the other strips.

So all in all, though Millar is a cock, I'll defend the Summer Offensive. 

[Colin Zeal]

I don't mind Inferno, it wasn't as bad as I though it was going to be from what i had heard about it. My main gripe with it is that it comes so soon after Necropolis and Judgement Day. I think MacGruder says something along the lines of "we just can't handle this so soon" and that's exactly how I felt when reading it. It just seems so unnecessary to me.

[Peter Wolf]

Peter,

I'm not intollerant.  Believe what you like.  I can have whatever opinion of your views I like.  God, alien abductions, magic, flying spaghetti monster and so on are all in the same camp. 

My own little indulgence concerning the metaphysical is to visualise and engage positive thought and to be connected to the cosmic oneness of the universe.

Other than that i have no time for anything New Age in nature.

I believe in the supernatural and that belief is based on personal experience or a multitude of personal experiences.This is mostly because i am "psychic" or at least hypersensitive.

Earth energies/Ley lines and Geomancy are another of my interests.

Each to their own as the saying goes.

[JayzusB.Christ]

(did anyone notice that Tony Blair died TWICE in that series? Very lazy)

actually I might be wrong there - think he died and then somehow came back to life in a later series.  And why did every single person involved in releasing the Maniacs (except Ross Perot) commit suicide?  i mean they didn't kill as many as the A-bomb or the Iraq invasion and no officials commited suicide then.*  Either way up, fuck off, Mark Millar.  Red Son was good though, you can stop fucking off to write things like that, but just don't do any interviews.

Has there ever been a thread so blatantly split into two different subjects?




*Hang on, there was one, wasn't there?

[DeSainte]

Coincidentally I read a couple of my older 2000Ads just this morning while reorganising them and stumbled upon a Mark Millar Dredd story - specifically the one where a whole sector house goes futsie.  After reading that I have to wonder why they would continue accepting stories from this guy?

[Christov]

Err, no. It was fairly logical thread drift over the course of several pages.

Cheers

Jim

Jolly good. Looking at page 5 then flipping over to 7 was a rather surreal experience, and I sort of assumed the topic changed rather suddenly.